HORROR BUSINESS Episode 25: Wherefore Art Thou Cronenberg? (SHIVERS & RABID)

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This episode we are talking about the work of Canadian filmmaker David Cronenberg, specifically his earlier period of filmmaking in which he defined the subgenre of “body horror”.

 

The films we’re discussing are 1975’s Shivers and 1977’s Rabid. We were lucky enough to be joined by fellow Cinepunk Sean Bennis-Sine to help us wade through the weirdness of these films.

We begin by talking about what we’ve seen recently. Sean opens up the discussion by talking about his recent viewings of The Babadook and Burnt Offerings, and we briefly talk about viewing The Babadook through the lens of parenthood as opposed to seeing it as someone without children. Justin discusses his recent trip to LA and the horror related things he did out there, as well as his recent viewing of 47 Meters Down. Liam then discusses, amongst other things, Night Of The Demon, American Gods, and The Bad Batch.

 

First up is 1975’s Shivers. We discuss the plot of the film and how it sets the stage for much of Cronenberg’s career onward, as well as a brief discussion on the concept of “body horror”.

 

We then discuss, amongst other things, the social message the film carries, how it relates Cronenberg’s commentary on the sexual revolution of the 60s, Cronenberg’s commentary on modern living, how the film compares to similar “zombie” style horror films both of that time period and in modern times, and the idea of Cronenberg as an “apocalyptic” filmmaker in that he seeks to show the possibility of a different social order than the one that currently exists.

 

We compare the film visually and tonally to some of Cronenberg’s later works, and also how the films aesthetics perfectly capture the late 70s/early 80s look that we remember as children.

Up next is 1977’s Rabid.

 

We talk about how Rabid is arguably the first definitive “Cronenberg” film in that it takes the imagery and ideas he first explored in Shivers into truly new territory, as well as it again revisits themes from Shivers (infection, the body/flesh transforming/rebelling against itself, the collapse of an old social order to make way for a new one, sexuality as an alien concept, people becoming less than human by subverting the mind to the will of the body, etc).

 

We talk about accusations of Cronenberg harboring misogynistic/sexist views and expressing those views in his work, and we talk about Rabid as a commentary on the competency of the government in times of crisis.

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Justin Lore

Justin Lore

Greetings and salutations. My name is Justin Lore, and in addition to being a real life pawn star, an obsessive dog dad, and a falsely accused Lovecraft apologist, I am the creator and co-host of the podcast Horror Business and the communications manager and assistant editor of Cinepunx. I saw Carpenter’s ‘The Thing’ at the age of six and horror films have been a large part of my life since then. Favorite directors include John Carpenter, George Romero, David Lynch, James Cameron, Wes Anderson, and David Cronenberg. I don’t eat animals, I abstain from the partaking of drugs and alcohol, I think ‘Friday The 13th’ is the most overrated franchise in film history and if I ever saw Metallica live and they played ‘Blackened’ there’s a decent chance I’d be led out in handcuffs because the pit would get murdered.
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